Tuesday, April 30, 2013

Topics Du Jour

Let's get right to it.


Jason Collins

1) Anyone who says coming out didn't increase his chances of playing in the league next year from 50% to 100% is an idiot. Sorry. There is no way the NBA will risk the bad PR that would follow if he doesn't play. Look, I get it, he is an older big guy who is near the end of his career. 3 days ago the chances he played in the league next year were about 50%. He has had a long solid career, nothing to be ashamed of, but his time might have run its course. Without the announcement he had about a 50% chance of playing next year. Now, if he doesn't sign the NBA will have so much bad publicity. It doesn't matter his skill level, groups will come out and say he wasn't signed because of him coming out. The media will run with it. It will be a HUGE story if he isn't signed. David Stern is not that dumb. He will make sure that Collins gets signed somewhere.

2) To be honest I am kind of surprised some other guy didn't fake coming out just to get a couple more years of million dollar salaries. Not to mention all of the endorsement money. Goodness, there is a movie in this. Sign one of the Wayans brothers up. Straight guy fakes being gay to stay in the league and make money. I am in no way saying Collins is doing this, just that I am shocked it hasn't happened already and/or wasn't already a movie. They made Juwanna Man or whatever it was called, so why not this? Well it is too late now. Juwanna Gay would have made millions.

3) Mike Wallace is an idiot. I was waiting for the first pro player to send out the tweet that was literally just retarded in timing and was immediately followed by backtracking and apoligies. Mike Wallace didn't disappoint. True story, cmtem and I were at Rooster's (keith knows) eating before birthing class and this Collins stuff was all over the news. I tolt* cmtem that I was disappointed that no pro athelete hadn't stuck his foot in his mouth yet. I said maybe basketball players are too smart...it'll probably be a football player....then 10 seconds later ESPN is showing the Wallace tweets.

4) It will be interesting to see how Collins is treated next year. I think the fans will be the worst part for him. I guess that might be obvious though.


5) I think Jug said this first, but I am expanding on it.



NHL Playoffs

The Blue Jackets didn't make it based on the tiebreaker system. They didn't even get past the first step.

1) Are you the Blue Jackets? No, continue along....Yes, go home.
2) Goals scored or something, who knows...it isn't head to head, that's all I know


Nets

Trying to make a series of it, but I don't think it will work. They blew a good chance to get destroyed by the Heat. Now the Bulls will lose to the Heat in 5.



Other stuff happened too, but I have to poop.


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Jugdish said...

good morning

Jugdish said...

Jason Collins


I'm noticing most of the sports talk guys saying things like "I don't even know why this is a big deal??" Really? Regardless of how you feel on the topic, you don't know why its a big deal?

tem said...

"I don't know why it is a big deal" = "I don't know what to say that won't get me in trouble or won't make me sound like a homophobe or won't get me in trouble so I am going to avoid talking about it the best I can."

Jugdish said...

tem knows

Jugdish said...

100% sports tak guys i listen to are fine with it and i believe them. i don't believe that 100% of the sports media is good with it, but haven't heard of one say otherwise.

Vice Presidente said...

whats birthing class?

like le mans (sp?)

Jugdish said...

seinfeld was ahead of their time with the "I'm not gay...not that there is anything wrong with that"

Vice Presidente said...

jason collins sucks, if he doesnt get signed it's because he sucks

Jugdish said...

jason collins sucks, if he doesnt get signed it's because he sucks


he averaged like a point a game last year

Vice Presidente said...

"I am in no way saying Collins is doing this"

i am but not that he isn't gay, he is doing this to try and get another 2 years out of this

i hope no one signs him

Jugdish said...

i am but not that he isn't gay, he is doing this to try and get another 2 years out of this



+ endorsements

Vice Presidente said...

yes

Jugdish said...

there will be a book out on it in about 6 months i imagine

Vice Presidente said...

so, IMO, he's not really all that brave

the brave gays to me are the gays that have been publicy gay forever because they have had to deal with the hate, adversity, rejections, prejudice, etc. to get where they are now

this is a non fucking story i hate the media and the activist groups they are the biggest pieces of shit going

Vice Presidente said...

no writer has the balls to write that, i should write for a national paper

(would need a good editor)

Vice Presidente said...

give me buzz bissinger's number yo

Vice Presidente said...

that lesbian tennis player tweeted him a backhanded comment like "congrats on coming out, i came out 30 years ago"

tem said...

"whats birthing class?

like le mans (sp?)"


more or less.

tem said...

"i am but not that he isn't gay, he is doing this to try and get another 2 years out of this"

i don't think he is doing it just to get 2 more years. although i won't rule out that possibility.

tem said...

brave might not be the right word, but the fact is he is the first openly gay active player in MLB, NHL, NBA or NFL.

there is a reason nobody before him came out. it is definitely something that he came out. i'll say brave is an acceptable way to describe it.

Jugdish said...

there is a reason nobody before him came out. it is definitely something that he came out. i'll say brave is an acceptable way to describe it.


id go along with that

tem said...

"jason collins sucks, if he doesnt get signed it's because he sucks"

this is probably true. but you damn well know the media will have a field day if he doesn't get signed.

him not getting signed will be a bigger story than him coming out is.

Jugdish said...

this guy came out years ago and it got no attention

Vice Presidente said...

"there is a reason nobody before him came out. it is definitely something that he came out. i'll say brave is an acceptable way to describe it."

coming out in the prime of your playing career is brave

coming out at the end to me screams i want publicity/money and another contract

he's basically done, i mean if he signs it will be because Stern has forced an owners hand to do so, no coach wants this guy as the 12th man on his team, so many better options from a basketball point

tem said...

"he's basically done, i mean if he signs it will be because Stern has forced an owners hand to do so"

if only someone had already said this today.

Vice Presidente said...

yes just reiterating your point

tem said...

"coming out at the end to me screams i want publicity/money and another contract"

this is a possible motive, but the means to the end is still brave.



Jugdish said...

Jason, this is an incredibly brave thing you're doing and I'm very proud of you. Now listen, SI is going to give you 250k for this article. I've also got this list of authors for you to review for the book deal. Oh, and I heard back from Uggs...you're in there too.

/Collins' agent


part s part ns

Vice Presidente said...

"this is a possible motive, but the means to the end is still brave."

when in rome, it's akin to providing a career for yourself after your playing career.....(endorsements, speech circuit, paid appearences, books, etc.)

i save the word brave for people that run into burning buildings, walk the dangerous streets of America, jug's bro and all the bro's serving abroad, ambulance people, ER surgoens, etc, you see where im going with this

Vice Presidente said...

JUG KNOWS

BLUE said...

why are they brave?

Vice Presidente said...

south park was great last night

sort of about gays

BLUE said...

the people you have on your list are doing their job.

it's like saying i'm brave because I drive through a snowstorm to get to work

Vice Presidente said...

"why are they brave?"

because they are performing couragoeus acts when called upon which is the definition to the tee of the word brave

Vice Presidente said...

if the walk through a snowstorm was dangerous i'd call that a brave thing to do

Vice Presidente said...

"the people you have on your list are doing their job"

an entire occupation cannot be considered "brave" work?

tem said...

1) obviously those folks are brave too, except maybe ER surgeons....not sure how they made the list.

2) i think brave can be used in more broad terms than you do. an agree to disagree thing.

3) when it comes time for baby lp to ride a bike or play sports or whatever you better not call them brave. brave isn't for kids learning to ride a bike it is for firemen. brave isn't for the kid who doesn't need a nite lite anymore.

Jugdish said...

it's like saying i'm brave because I drive through a snowstorm to get to work




i get what you're saying on some level, but its silly talk

BLUE said...

was jackie robinson brave?

BLUE said...

was thomas jefferson brave?

BLUE said...

i think your narrow view of braveness is very not brave

tem said...

"the people you have on your list are doing their job."

simply put their jobs require bravery....except the ER surgeon and maybe ambulance people. i am not sure if ambulance people automatically get to be brave.

Jugdish said...

simply put their jobs require bravery....



yes

BLUE said...

by the definition of brave, the guys who bombed the boston marathon and got into a shootout with police were brave.

Jugdish said...

by the definition of brave, the guys who bombed the boston marathon and got into a shootout with police were brave.



very loosely interpreted

tem said...

in a way yes.

brave has a very broad list of things it can be applied to.

Jugdish said...

blue is fishing with the wrong bait

tem said...

it can probably be said that bravery requires some sort of "i'm doing this for the greater good" aspect to it.

applying that to the bombings works if you are pro-terrorism and terror or if some sort of political upheaval is your greater good.

BLUE said...

"very loosely interpreted"

nope, it's the exact definition.

nowhere in the definition does it say that bravery is only for people doing good

Vice Presidente said...

"ER surgeons"

trauma surgeons literally save lives, often making split second decisions in the face of horriffic circumstances

fucking brave just for getting up in the morning and going to work IMO

Vice Presidente said...

"nowhere in the definition does it say that bravery is only for people doing good"


I never said that

bravery can be present in evil acts sure

Jugdish said...

nope, it's the exact definition.

nowhere in the definition does it say that bravery is only for people doing good



well exact is a bit of a stretch.

BLUE said...

nope merriman's definition is: "having or showing courage"

So now we have to define courage

courage: mental or moral strength to venture, persevere, and withstand danger, fear, or difficulty.


So by that definition, the bombers were brave. It doesn't mention doing good, it's withstanding danger, fear or difficulty

Vice Presidente said...

although it borders on insanity, like you have to be insane or extreme (which is the term we use right, extreme militants or extreme islamic) to blow yourself up like they do in Israel the suicide bombers

would you call a suicide bomber brave?

tem said...

"trauma surgeons literally save lives, often making split second decisions in the face of horriffic circumstances"

at no risk to themselves.

wouldn't bravery require some risk to themselves?

if the trauma surgeon fails they probably aren't getting sued. they probably aren't getting fired. they have to live with the failure i guess, but i am not sure that is a lot of risk to themselves.

BLUE said...

it doesn't say that you're not brave if you create the danger, fear or difficulty yourself.

Vice Presidente said...

were japanese kamikazee jet fighters brave?

debateable

BLUE said...

i think you put too much stock in the word "brave"

that's my point. So to go spouting off about how someone is not brave, maybe understand the true definition of the word and how it was applied

BLUE said...

"were japanese kamikazee jet fighters brave?"

no fucking doubt they were

Jugdish said...

it doesn't say that you're not brave if you create the danger, fear or difficulty yourself.



and it doesn't say that you are

tem said...

the trauma surgeon's level of danger seems to be massively lower than the fireman or the policeman.

i'd even argue it is lower than jason collins' level of danger.

nobody is going to shun the trauma surgeon that fails. everyone knows the trauma surgeon is put in a difficult situation and while it is admirable that they accept the situation i don't think the possible negative outcomes are strong enough to consider it brave.

Vice Presidente said...


"they have to live with the failure i guess"

that's a hell of a burden to bear

BLUE said...

my point to all of this.

bravery is relative to the person going through the act. You might not think they are brave, but others may.

Just like if you ask pretty much any first responder, they don't look at themselves as brave.

Vice Presidente said...

nobody is going to shun the trauma surgeon that fails. everyone knows the trauma surgeon is put in a difficult situation and while it is admirable that they accept the situation i don't think the possible negative outcomes are strong enough to consider it brave.


solid points

ToddPacker said...

standing O for blue

Vice Presidente said...

spiderman is brave

BLUE said...

bruce wayne is brave

Jugdish said...

bravery is relative to the person going through the act. You might not think they are brave, but others may.



i agree with that...

tem said...

"Just like if you ask pretty much any first responder, they don't look at themselves as brave."

they wouldn't say they are but if you said well then are you a coward (assuming that is the opposite of brave) they would definitely say they are not a coward.

Vice Presidente said...

"So to go spouting off about how someone is not brave"

a guy who has made 35MM over the course of 10-12 years whatever of playing basketball who oh by the way was engaged to a female and was heterosexual at least in practice most formative years of his life who now at the end of his playing career comes out as a gay "active" professional sports player to presumably, and in my own opinion, cash in on the opportunity is fucking genius

NOT brave.

again imo

tem said...

they don't say they are brave out of modesty.

BLUE said...

I never said Jason Collins was brave, i just disagreed with your narrow view of the word

Vice Presidente said...

we should start a LOV debate team

i'll make some t shirts

tem said...

you never said he wasn't brave either.

Vice Presidente said...

"i just disagreed with your narrow view of the word"

fair enough

because i left off terrorists from my list, how do you know i didn't use Etc. as = evil people?

part s, ns

BLUE said...

"you never said he wasn't brave either."

that's true, maybe he was a coward for all the years he hid his true self.

tem said...

or maybe he was brave for denying his true self and conforming.

tem said...

kind of like how el pad is brave for not groping every hot chick on the subway even though he really wants to.

tem said...

or maybe he is a coward for not doing it.

BLUE said...

i don't think Collins was brave. I think it's more of a relief, weight off his shoulders


Listening to mike & mike (no not jug and H) this morning and Greenberg made the point that imagine having to keep something so secret for your entire life, and live in fear of being found out...what an awful way to live

Vice Presidente said...

kind of like how el pad is brave for not groping every hot chick on the subway even though he really wants to.

will power

Vice Presidente said...

Imagine you're in the oven, baking. Some of us know and accept our sexuality right away and some need more time to cook. I should know - I baked for 33 years.


whatta gotta cupcake?

Jugdish said...

When I was traded to the Wizards, the political significance of coming out sunk in. I was ready to open up to the press, but I had to wait until the season was over.




with the Wizards he could have done that after 10 games

Vice Presidente said...

veep on HBO is hilarious

Vice Presidente said...

mets stink already not even trying to act good then stink in June

stink now

Jugdish said...

kod...bet on blackhawks wild series?



Vice Presidente said...

playoffs?

Vice Presidente said...

fucking hockey sneaks up on ya

Jugdish said...

yeah...game 1 tonight

Vice Presidente said...

"GM: All 5 Jets QBs to compete for top job"

JILARITY

fucking Jets

Vice Presidente said...

the Islanders are in the playoffs?

BWWWWWAHAHAHAHAAAAAHHAHAAAAAA

Jugdish said...

"GM: All 5 Jets QBs to compete for top job"



sorry mark, we ran out of red jerseys, but im sure you'll be fine out there

/Rex

tem said...

good AM run.

Jugdish said...

Sources: Raptors want Jackson as president

tem said...

US or Canadian president?

tem said...

does canada even have a president or do they have a prime minister?

Jugdish said...

Canada does not have a president as it is a constitutional monarchy rather than a republic. Instead, it has a Queen, a Governor General, and Prime Minister, each of which fill some of the roles commonly associated with a president.



cnp

Keef said...

Dan Uggla is a brave one

Keef said...

Chipper jones was a brave for years

Jugdish said...

Bobby Cox

Vice Presidente said...

Love cox

/ep

Jugdish said...

yesterday was the first day and last day cmjug will ever ask me to take the dog in for a fur cut. they buzzed the dog! and judging by cmjug's reaction mixed with the pregnancy hormones you'd think the dog was missing a leg or something


Jugdish said...

Female DNA found on bomb fragment:
Traces found on piece of pressure cooker



its a cooker, she was probably just doing her job

/Lp

Vice Presidente said...

yesterday

Jugdish said...

hilarity

Vice Presidente said...

"Gribbohm says he kept trying to win back his money by going double or nothing. He dropped 300 dollars in just a few minutes, then says he went home to get 2300 dollars more and soon lost all that as well."

wise


Vice Presidente said...

man that article was gold

fucking banana with dreadlocks

Vice Presidente said...

hahahahahahahahahahahaha

Jugdish said...

mize

Vice Presidente said...

have any of you terrible home cooks try the oven ready lasagna noodles?

do you recommend

ToddPacker said...

have any of you terrible home cooks try the oven ready lasagna noodles?

do you recommend


not bad, but not grate

ToddPacker said...

"mets stink already not even trying to act good then stink in June"

last night was terrible... stayed up to watch late to watch them choke

ToddPacker said...

"veep on HBO is hilarious"

veep is grate. very funny

Jugdish said...

have any of you terrible home cooks try the oven ready lasagna noodles?

do you recommend



they're good portuguese style all spiced up and smothered in sauce over rice

/aitch

Jugdish said...

saw this on FB..."If you watch Cinderella backwards, its about a woman who learns her place"

Keef said...

The average American eats more than 28 pounds of bananas each year.

Keef said...

My stepmom texts me this morning "dad had a motorcycle accident this am. Done from cat scan. so far, bad laceration to the right side of head w/ bruised brain. Badly broken shoulder blade & 4 broken ribs all on the left side, w/ bruised lung. right eye socket bone broken w/ laceration"


I call her right away and say maybe call me with that info

Vice Presidente said...

they're good portuguese style all spiced up and smothered in sauce over rice

/aitch


lolz

Vice Presidente said...

jesus christ, sorry keef

Vice Presidente said...

motorcycle accidents are never good

tem said...

"have any of you terrible home cooks try the oven ready lasagna noodles?

do you recommend


not bad, but not grate"


^^^

tem said...

damn. sorry to hear that keef.

Meiz said...

"simply put their jobs require bravery..."

Or blind stupidity, but ya know

Jugdish said...

damn. sorry to hear that keef.


^^^

and yeah...you call with that kind of information everytime

BLUE said...

"have any of you terrible home cooks try the oven ready lasagna noodles?"

i did not like them...they weren't nearly as good as the boil first kind

BLUE said...

huge tits chick did not ride the bike enough in spin class today.

Vice Presidente said...

"huge tits chick did not ride the bike enough in spin class today."

she should be home cooking bacon and eggs for the family anyway

/ep

Vice Presidente said...

keef, not judging, but what is your pops doing on a motorcycle

Meiz said...

"mize"

Herb Kohl's a loser.

Meiz said...

"keef, not judging, but what is your pops doing on a motorcycle"

I bet you'll never guess.

BLUE said...

old men ride motorcycles, it reminds them of their utes

Jugdish said...

cmlp in 20 years

Keef said...

keef, not judging, but what is your pops doing on a motorcycle



It's a Harley. Not like he's riding a Ninja

Keef said...

He drives to to work because he can use the carpool lane and it saves on gas

Keef said...

Oh wait. Wasn't the Harley. He has a Honda, too. I think he was driving the Honda. I don't think he drives the Harley to work. Either way, it's just a cruiser bike, not a crotch rocket

Keef said...

I've been trying to convice cmk that I should get a bike so I can save on gas and use the carpool lane and knock 60 minutes off my commute each day. She's been resistant. This doesn't help.

Meiz said...

I am terrified of riding a motorcycle.

Meiz said...

I want a mo-ped though

Meiz said...

A Flying Dutchman would be dope as hell

Vice Presidente said...

"Either way, it's just a cruiser bike, not a crotch rocket"

makes no difference to me those things are Dangerous (with a capital D)

Vice Presidente said...

"I've been trying to convice cmk that I should get a bike so I can save on gas and use the carpool lane and knock 60 minutes off my commute each day."

with two kids?

are you fucking insane?

Vice Presidente said...

look at me honey I'm saving $100 a month on ga......oh my god im dead (will ferrel voice)

Keef said...

we're all going to die

Keef said...

it's science

Keef said...

It's less about saving the gas money and more about being on the road for an hour a day instead of 2 1/2 hours a day

Keef said...

but obviously now it's a moo* point

Vice Presidente said...

obviously

Meiz said...

"makes no difference to me those things are Dangerous (with a capital D)"



Keith's Dad is very brave

Meiz said...

Being on the road to commute 2 1/2 hours a day is insane. That would be like me driving to Green Bay & back every day.

No chance, jack.

Vice Presidente said...

It's less about saving the gas money and more about being on the road for an hour a day instead of 2 1/2 hours a day


MOVE

Keef said...

Keith's Dad is very brave




lol

Keef said...

Being on the road to commute 2 1/2 hours a day is insane. That would be like me driving to Green Bay & back every day.

No chance, jack.




It's only 33 miles to and from work, too

Meiz said...

I would have had a bike ages ago

Jugdish said...

Being on the road to commute 2 1/2 hours a day is insane



im glad i never took a yob in downtown htown

Vice Presidente said...

going to jersey city was three trains, 1hr and 15 door to door

that's 2.5 hours a day Jack not being in the comfy car too

now it's suite 35 min each way

Jugdish said...

the base i work at is 9 miles from my house and takes about 10-15 min in the morn and 15-20 min in the evening

Keef said...

going to jersey city was three trains, 1hr and 15 door to door

that's 2.5 hours a day Jack not being in the comfy car too



ok jug's niece

Keef said...

A referee for a recreational soccer league is in critical condition in a Salt Lake City hospital after being punched in the face by a teenage player who didn't like a call the man made in a weekend game.
The 17-year-old was booked into a juvenile detention center on suspicion of aggravated assault, said Unified Police Lt. Justin Hoyal. Those charges could be amplified if the 46-year-old referee's condition worsens.



jeezaloo

Keef said...

tem
I need a name/pic

Vice Presidente said...

man can't take a punch

Keef said...

seems like he took the punch just fine

Jugdish said...

cool story

Meiz said...

Cool story bro

Vice Presidente said...

tell it again

Meiz said...

"tell it again"

Our truck drivers are a bunch of pampered over-coddled whiny babies.

Meiz said...

I just had a 6'5", 250LB grown-ass man pitching a fit because I told him he can't have the sweatshirts he wants because they're not in our ordering guide. So now I'm waiting to hear back from the VP of Operations and the motherfucking CFO on whether or not we're letting this crybaby special order these shirts.

Meiz said...

Why the fuck can't people just follow the goddamn rules?

Meiz said...

My nerves is bad.

Keef said...

are

Meiz said...

I'm aware. It's an expression I use.

Jugdish said...

NFL suspends Jaguars WR Justin Blackmon four games for substance abuse

Jugdish said...

Beef offer Tim Tebow a contract

Jugdish said...

The Beef's current quarterback, James McNear, has led the team to a 5-1 start. He's completing 70 percent of his passes and has thrown for 21 touchdowns against just two interceptions.

McNear is anything but insulted by the Beef's wooing of Tebow.

"I think Tim can learn a lot from me," McNear said.

Aitch said...

"veep on HBO is hilarious"

Can't stand JLD. Wasn't a fan of her on Seinfeld and HATED that Old Christine show.

Aitch said...

Hockey tie breaker is regulation wins.

Keef said...

I'm aware. It's an expression I use.



HISIIRL. I like your style

/LP

Jugdish said...

wall

Aitch said...

Sorry to hear about your dad, Keith.

Aitch said...

I'm supposed to be going Harley shopping with a friend on Thursday.

Jugdish said...

are they going to get you a sidecar to ride in?



s

Keef said...

thanks H

and everyone else since I didn't say it earlier

Keef said...

I'm going to see him tonight in the ICU unit. I've never been in ICU before, I'm a little nervous about what I'm gonna see

Keef said...

But I'll be brave

Jugdish said...

I'm a little nervous about what I'm gonna see



i don't like going to hospitals much, they give me the willies

Keef said...

wussbag

Jugdish said...

pretty much

Jugdish said...

mize, how did the sweatshirt debacle turn out?

Vice Presidente said...

"oh he in zona? cool"

ICU is aight better than trauma ward where the brave ER surgeons live

Keef said...

Good thing that guy wants to buy sweatshirts for the summer season

Vice Presidente said...

i quoted my own comment

LEGEND

Meiz said...

"Good thing that guy wants to buy sweatshirts for the summer season"

Previous guy would only let them order once per fiscal year

Keef said...

OIC

Keef said...

he was being fiscally responsible

Keef said...

i quoted my own comment

LEGEND




ha. I was wondering about the quotes

Keef said...

wall

BLUE said...

ICU is ok, you get your own space, nobody bothers you

BLUE said...

if he's conscious and can breath on his own, then it shouldn't be too bad.

if he's intubated, that's not a good look

Keef said...

My stepmom said he's on O2

Keef said...

I guess his face is mangled. The cop said his body was about 550 feet from the ro-add. And his helmet was a few hundred feet from him

Keef said...

bold

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