Wednesday, January 14, 2009

More money, more cash, more hoes.

I almost made this post into an LoV resignation letter, but you know what? Fuck it. I'll stick it out. Most of my reasoning for hanging it up was because of all the political in-fighting lately. Another reason is that I'm turning 33 this Friday, so I was thinking that maybe it was time to grow up. But, then I decided to say fuck it.

Anyways, onto sports.

Regarding Tem's Franklin over Henderson prediction yesterday: I don't see that happening. Franklin looks dunski. Henderson is a beast. I don't know how it ends, but I like Henderson for the win.

NBA rumor mill: pretty interesting three-way involving the Bobcats, the Mavs and the Thunder. The Bobcats would ship off Raymond Felton, Nazr Mohammed and Sean May to Dallas, then get Earl Watson from the Thunder and DeSagana Diop from Dallas back. The Thunder would get Jerry Stackhouse and a second-round pick. Currently, the trade is being held up by D.J. Augustin's abdominal injury. This is Larry Brown classic trade; get rid of young guys that you hate, trade them to another team and instantly make them better, and get some career backups in return while you continue to suck. Dallas is the obvious winner if this thing goes through, Felton can get up and down the floor in a hurry, and he would be a very good replacement for Devin Harris, who, let's face it, they never should have traded. This might be on hold until Augustin is back, so don't be surprised if it's revisited in a couple of weeks. I think it's a terrible trade for the Bobcats, but that's what you get when you've got Larry Brown and Jordan running the team.

Zeke reported that there's another rumor going around about a trade, this time involving the Suns and the Raptors. "The Suns send Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa and Robin Lopez to Toronto for Jose Calderon, Andrea Bargnani, Anthony Parker, Jason Kopono and Jamario Moon."

It's not surprising that the Raptors are hot to get Nash. Bryan Colangelo, Toronto's General Manager, signed Nash to his current contract when he was the GM of the Suns and they desperately want to play up-tempo. If that trade is for real, I don't get it, especially from the Suns POV. You're talking about trading your starting Point Guard, your energy guard that comes off the bench and your first round pick that you're kind of grooming to be a starter.

Kerr and Porter want a traditional team that can play in a half-court set and play defense. Nash and Barbosa are best when they're running with the ball on the fastbreak. Nash is getting to be a liability on defense, and as Keith said, this looks like a move to dump Nash's contract and try and get something back in return. I also think that Kerr and Porter are on a mission to blow up the SSOL team and build their own squad.

What I don't get is giving up The Captain in the same deal. And I don't understand why Porter doesn't play him either. He's only averaging 22 minutes a game after averaging about 30 the previous two years, and all of his stats are down. I think the thing that is hurting the Suns in trying to move these guys is their current style of play. If they were going to trade Nash and The Captain, it should have been in the offseason when they were coming off of decent years. Porter is basically killing their trade value because both Nash and Barbosa's stats are WAY down. And we saw what happened to their season when they made a big trade right in the middle of the season, and now you're going to go and do it again? Doesn't make too much sense.

Of course this is a trade rumor, so who knows if it's for real or not. What is evident is that Nash and Porter don't get along. Nash wants to run like the good old days, Porter wants to try and hang in the half-court with the rest of the Western Conference elite. Their relationship is not going to end well, and I think Nash is trying to get out of town just as much as Kerr and Porter are trying to move him.

I think a good question to ask is; is Nash a Hall of Famer? One big, giant plus he's got going for him is that he's got back-to-back MVP's. There aren't a whole lot of players with that on their resume and I believe all of them are in the Hall. The funny thing is, it's really starting to look like he was a product of the SSOL system that Dantony instituted. Look at these stats:

2003-04 (final year with Dallas):
14.5ppg, 8.8apg, .9spg, 2.7tpg

MVP Years (average):
17.2ppg, 11apg, .9spg, 3.4tpg

2008-09
14.4ppg, 7.9apg, .7spg, 3.6tpg


So, he's basically back to his pre-SSOL days. He's currently 13th on the all-time assist list, he could finish 8th by the end of the season. He's going to have to play 2-3 years to move past Gary Payton and Isiah Thomas and finish in 6th. He might have a case if he does that, but I think there would still be a couple of reasons to not vote for him. He never played in an NBA Finals Game. He only had four really good years, the rest were just average, and how much of those good years were a product of the system he was in? If I had a vote, man, it would be a pretty tough decision. I think it's going to come down to who else is on the ballot. He might have to wait. I think he eventually gets in, it just might not be on the first try.

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El Padrino said...

grow up?

stop it T, you know i dont speak spanish

El Padrino said...

where's my ho

El Padrino said...

i need that suiteness to start my day

Beth said...

Oh so now I'm yours?

El Padrino said...

you've always been mine

it's ok, we don't have to hide it anymore

Beth said...

And I can't be a ho if I give it away for free. :-)

Beth said...

"it's ok, we don't have to hide it anymore"

Whew, the stress of keeping it a secret was killing me. Now you just have to dump that wench you're married to. I'm sure you know a few thick-necked guys that can make her "disappear".

tem said...

should i leave you two alone for awhile?

Beth said...

Should I pretend to leave you two alone for awhile while I really watch.

*fixed

tem said...

" I don't see that happening. Franklin looks dunski. Henderson is a beast."

your mixing the two up.

tem said...

"Should I pretend to leave you two alone for awhile while I really watch."

you just want an audience.

Beth said...

"you just want an audience"

Nah, I have to be drunk for that.

Beth said...

And this shouldn't get overlooked in all the normal BS around here, but Tyler (or Chuck Taylor as he's apparently known now) was thinking of leaving LOV.

Tyler, never ever grow up or leave LOV, if you do that then the terrorists win... (SWIDT?)

El Padrino said...

beth is on fire today

El Padrino said...

T i fired up an 80's playlist today

THERE IS ALWAYS SOMETHING THERE TO REMIND ME

Beth said...

"beth is on fire today"

Well I'm trying for points in the TCS finals.

Wait...what? I'm not even in the TCS finals? That's ok, tem can change that if he feels like it.

tem said...

i can do anything.

tem said...

T had the mat out, political talk never lasts more than a day or two. we're too dumb to argue for many days in a row.

El Padrino said...

tem declare me and beth winners and mail us a gift cert to olive garden, i want a lovely dinner with my soulmate

tem said...

"Nah, I have to be drunk for that."

no you wouldn't.

Beth said...

You'd actually go to Olive Garden with me EP? Damn, you really will do almost anything if you think there's a chance to get laid. :-)

El Padrino said...

bush was on Larry King last night, it was good interview, don't read it if you dont want to, not starting an arguement jus pointing out the last days of a president

Beth said...

"no you wouldn't."

Ok, maybe not, but you'd at least have to be female and hot.

El Padrino said...

"You'd actually go to Olive Garden with me EP? Damn, you really will do almost anything if you think there's a chance to get laid. :-)"

well that and for unlimited salad and breadsticks

tem said...

"Ok, maybe not, but you'd at least have to be female and hot."

i could bring one of those with me.

tem said...

we have a president????


WFT????


all this time I thought we lived in a monarchy....fuck.

i should never have gotten that "hail to the king" bedskirt.

Beth said...

"well that and for unlimited salad and breadsticks"

Let's just say you'd have a much better shot with me if it was authentic NY pizza instead of unlimited salad and breadsticks...

tem said...

"Let's just say you'd have a much better shot with me if it was authentic NY pizza instead of unlimited salad and breadsticks...
"


doesn't "free meal" lock it up already?

tem said...

doesn't "free trip to NY" lock it up already?

tem said...

doesn't "hey you" lock it up already?

tem said...

doesn't "get out of my dreams and into my Iroc" lock it up already?

tem said...

doesn't "i've got fifty dollars" lock it up already?

Beth said...

"doesn't "free trip to NY" lock it up already?"

If it's a first class flight and hotel then probably so. I may be a ho but I'm not cheap...

tem said...

doesn't "i have a job" lock it up already?

Beth said...

Tem's on a roll today. Too bad relatives and employees are not eligible for the TCS or he'd have a good chance at winning.

Beth said...

You forgot the most obvious one though tem:

Doesn't "i have a bed skirt on my guest bed" lock it up already?

tem said...

"You forgot the most obvious one though tem:

Doesn't "i have a bed skirt on my guest bed" lock it up already?"


i already know the answer to that one.

tem said...

"Too bad relatives and employees are not eligible for the TCS or he'd have a good chance at winning."

well yeah, until I change the rules to allow me to win.

blue said...

"Wait...what? I'm not even in the TCS finals? That's ok, tem can change that if he feels like it."

preaching to the choir

El Padrino said...

"Let's just say you'd have a much better shot with me if it was authentic NY pizza instead of unlimited salad and breadsticks..."

YES!

El Padrino said...

beth = julia roberts?

Beth said...

"beth = julia roberts?"

Well she is from Georgia. Although I'm MUCH younger.

blue said...

i hope you don't have a forehead the size of a moviescreen too

Beth said...

I'd gladly have that forehead if I also got her money.

blue said...

typical woman

tem said...

i heard that julia roberts also had a penis.

Beth said...

You hear strange things Tem.

tem said...

yes i do. i've got spies all over the place.

El Padrino said...

voices in his head

tem said...

i also heard that jackie chan and will smith's son are going to star in a remake of the karate kid.

blue said...

new colts coach had a great line

"i don't want to say anything that gets me put on those beer commercials"

Beth said...

Jackie Chan and Will Smith had a son together? Wow, I don't know how I missed that news.

tem said...

no jackie chan as mr. myagi and will smith's son as daniel san.

tem said...

if jackie and will had a kid together it would have read "jackie's and will's son."

blue said...

will smith has a son?

blue said...

i heard today that Spiderman and Obamer are tight, and that spiderman is working security for the inauguration

tem said...

i don't doubt that blue.

El Padrino said...

well, well, well, look who's challenging mr obamaer

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"i heard today that Spiderman and Obamer are tight, and that spiderman is working security for the inauguration"


I hope Venom doesn't show up

blue said...

i also heard obamer is pissed he has to give up his blackberry

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

EP hates Tyler. Who knew?

blue said...

spiderman loves his country

El Padrino said...

"SPIDER-MAN creator Stan Lee is to unveil the world's first gay superhero... "


very disappointing

blue said...

why does EP hate tyler?

El Padrino said...

"EP hates Tyler. Who knew?"

nonsense

tem said...

el pad can't talk about stocks because el pad never fixed them.

fix it, fix it, fix it, fix it.

tem said...

"why does EP hate tyler?"

no clue, but he keeps posting political talk stuff.

tem said...

"SPIDER-MAN creator Stan Lee is to unveil the world's first gay superhero... "

i thought those dudes on SNL cartoons were gay superheroes.

i can't imagine nobody else has drawn one up already.

they just mean the first one for marvel or dc.

Beth said...

Don't leave tyler, even if EP hates you the rest of us don't.

El Padrino said...

"no clue, but he keeps posting political talk stuff."

not doing anything different, just posting news, financial news, sports and tits, like i always do

you dont want to know obama was called out by osama?

that's news and we stopped talking abotu sports months ago

freak's fault

blue said...

"i thought those dudes on SNL cartoons were gay superheroes."

i had the same thoughts...ace and gary beat stan lee to it.

El Padrino said...

"el pad can't talk about stocks because el pad never fixed them.

fix it, fix it, fix it, fix it."

my company lost 6.8 billion in the 4th quarter

the stock market will be relatively down for the next 2 months or so, by summer you'll see an upswing, small though, nothing big

equities will be back though and strong...derivitives are dead

blue said...

and everyone knows that superman is gay but just hasn't come out of the closet

dude runs around in spandex with his underwear on the outside

El Padrino said...

Jodie Meeks dropped 54 in a college game against the vols

that is impressive

54 in college is like 80 in the nba

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"54 in college is like 80 in the nba"


They only play 8 minutes less in college.

tem said...

"my company lost 6.8 billion in the 4th quarter"

you better go look for that.

tem said...

"derivitives are dead"

but i always liked calculus.

tem said...

LaDainian Tomlinson gets traded to Tampa Bay this offseason per my completely made up Mort style report.

tem said...

temwall.

blue said...

LDT is up on the block in the keeper league

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

Money, cash, hoes, moneycashhoes WHAT!?!

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"LDT is up on the block in the keeper league"


minus well drop him

blue said...

minus well drop your face

Steve said...

"that I'm turning 33 this Friday, so I was thinking that maybe it was time to grow up."


sweet, that means i have another two years before I even start thinking about growing up.

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

too late

blue said...

i'm turning 33 in about 8 months, i'm starting to think about growing up

blue said...

although Obamer has decided to re-distribute age now too, so i might be able to give some of it away and only be 26 again.

blue said...

if jug is out there...why do they set the shuttle up, like 3 weeks before launch

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

I'm a Toys R Us kid, so I don't wanna grow up.

El Padrino said...

33 sounds rough

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"if jug is out there...why do they set the shuttle up, like 3 weeks before launch"


Doesn't it take forever & a day to get it transported to the launch pad?

Or is it already there?

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"33 sounds rough"

I wish I had rich parents so I could be like Brennan & Dale

El Padrino said...

so the guy has a seizure, then gets electrocuted, then a heart attack, THEN RAN OVER BY A TRAIN, that, is a bad day

Raging Tebowner said...

i also heard that jackie chan and will smith's son are going to star in a remake of the karate kid.

The Blackarate Kid

Raging Tebowner said...

"SPIDER-MAN creator Stan Lee is to unveil the world's first gay superhero... "

Tebowman?

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

Karate Kid doesn't need remade

spaceman spiff said...

"beth = julia roberts?"

certainly hope not, roberts is gawdawful^3, she's on my list of 'why do these chicks get cast as the objects of desire' along with kate blanchett, nicole kidman, dunst(although it looks like movie makers are wising up), etc, i'm forgetting some, feel free to add to the list

spaceman spiff said...

you guys are old

tem said...

renee zelwegger.

isiah thomas said...

Kate Winslett
Maggie Glynehall*

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

Since the episode aired last night, did you make the cut for Idol Zeke?

isiah thomas said...

FTR I'd still WRECKO Roberts and Kidman.

spaceman spiff said...

helena bonham carter

tem said...

helen hunt

isiah thomas said...

Since the episode aired last night, did you make the cut for Idol Zeke?

I only watched that show during the finals of the first season when it was the fat, sloppy chick and the gay guy who looked like sideshow bob. That was enough.

El Padrino said...

i'd wreck all those woman except ofr Zelwigger who cant even be a human, must be an alien

isiah thomas said...

office peoples here did an American Idol "fantasy league", they axed me if I wanted in and got a

::flank stare::

isiah thomas said...

i'd wreck all those woman except ofr Zelwigger who cant even be a human, must be an alien

saw pics of her at the Golden Globes and she was looking good, nice backside. ns

tem said...

kelly clarkson is supposedly "thin" again and looking good.

she is a yo yo.

isiah thomas said...

kelly clarkson is supposedly "thin" again and looking good.


spiffg, do what you do mayne

isiah thomas said...

helen hunt

I'd finish on HH's face.

El Padrino said...

anne hatahway?

El Padrino said...

bitch is powder son

isiah thomas said...

anne hatahway?

yeah I haven't been feeling her for a while either, something wrong with that grill and eye combo

blue said...

"Doesn't it take forever & a day to get it transported to the launch pad?

Or is it already there?"

it's already there

spaceman spiff said...

"anne hatahway?"

stop it

isiah thomas said...

Cam'ron Diaz has been steadily declining also.

Beth said...

"anne hatahway?"

Go see her in Get Smart before you pass judgment, I thought she looked great in that movie.

El Padrino said...

"anne hatahway?"

stop it"

i'm adding her to the list of females who are mis-casted as loe interests in movies

not saying she is nice

El Padrino said...

mzelpad told me ryan seacrest tried to high five a blind dude last night

link please.

Beth said...

If this was on Scrubs, The Todd would call it a "blind five".

Here's your link EP.

blue said...

i'd bone the shit out of kate winslet...although her tits are saggy now.

i'd bang the titanic winslet all week long

isiah thomas said...

T:

1) No more political talk from me.

2) Nash - HOF/SSOL

Wow, tough one. You bring up all the good talking points about his resume. To me he's a HOF.

3) The Captain! is starting to pick it up. The change in coach and system had him shook, as did the passing of his mother at the start of the season. He's getting back into form now. THE CAPTAIN!

Steve said...

"anne hatahway"

youtube the movie Havoc.

very hot.

isiah thomas said...

mzelpad told me ryan seacrest tried to high five a blind dude last night

has that guy come out of the closet yet?

isiah thomas said...

Did we discuss Dick Clark's performance on NYE?

isiah thomas said...

AH had a good nudie scene in Brokeback.

blue said...

yeah, seacrest going hiya five to the blind guy was absolute hilarity

spaceman spiff said...

"Cam'ron Diaz has been steadily declining also."

yes, she's been on the list for a long long time

El Padrino said...

wow that's hilarious, thanks beth

Beth said...

Steve knows his Anne Hathaway, this is pretty hot.

NSFW

El Padrino said...

"Did we discuss Dick Clark's performance on NYE?"

very upsetting

isiah thomas said...

MLB Network played that HBO doc about 9/11 and baseball.

really good.

El Padrino said...

ooooo, petting the kitty

nice

isiah thomas said...

Steve knows his Anne Hathaway, this is pretty hot.

nazi'd

Reason:
The Websense category "Illegal or Questionable" is filtered.

El Padrino said...

"MLB Network played that HBO doc about 9/11 and baseball.

really good."

LOVED it.

isiah thomas said...

very upsetting

I won't lie, I kind of aitched.

isiah thomas said...

I mean, good for him for trying, but damn son, hang 'em up. he sounded like a record playing at the wrong speed.

El Padrino said...

i dont think nash is hof, but that's just me

tem said...

"Did we discuss Dick Clark's performance on NYE?"

had to change the channel.

i hope he quits or just dies soon. he doesn't need to be on tv.

tem said...

anne hath is hot.


drew barrymore is terrible now.

tem said...

"i'd bone the shit out of kate winslet"

same

El Padrino said...

BOOMSHAKALAKA

isiah thomas said...

drew barrymore is terrible now.

YES!

When I was in college, I peeped game on a Playboy spread of hers and she was the epitome of vixen.

now she's a hot sloppy mess

isiah thomas said...

i dont think nash is hof, but that's just me

keep in mind that Dook Vitale is in the hoops HOF.

El Padrino said...

"keep in mind that Dook Vitale is in the hoops HOF."

it is a bit watered down, i can be swayed

El Padrino said...

hockey fight

isiah thomas said...

like T says, if he finishes around 6th in career a-sis-a-sis then I'd say he's a lock.

before I moved here (the year he won his first MVP), I thought Shaq shoulda won it instead.

but after watching him consistently, dood ran that offense perfectly and I appreciated him as a player more.

blue said...

i think Nash is on the fringe

tem said...

Nash is too foreign to get in.

blue said...

I don't think being a "product of a system" should be held against you.

That's like saying that kiki vandeweghe or Alex English, who played in the Doug Moe, score 150pts/game system, weren't great.

If i'm a coach, i'm building a system that gets the most out of the talent that I have, that shouldn't be held against the player.

I mean, do you hold it against John Starks that he played for a coach who liked to score 80pts/game?

blue said...

from that standpoint, John Stockton was a product of the system he played in, because sloan kept calling the pick'n'roll

El Padrino said...

unrelated i think felton would fit perfectly on the knicks

El Padrino said...

good point blue

El Padrino said...

oh dave megget

isiah thomas said...

It's a belly option on 2...on 2

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

Mike Jordan was a product of the system

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

Where's keith and his walls?

isiah thomas said...

this place is jumping

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

lets go spam fathead

isiah thomas said...

DALLAS -- Hall of Fame receiver Michael Irvin says he calmly chatted with a gunman in another vehicle after the armed passenger turned out to be a Dallas Cowboys fan.

Irvin, who was not harmed, says he was "very afraid."

A Dallas police report says Irvin was stopped at a red light Monday night when two men in a truck pulled up next to him.

The driver rolled down his window, so Irvin did the same, thinking the two men recognized the radio talk show host and television commentator.

The passenger flashed a gun. Then the retired NFL star heard one of them call out his name and mentioned being a "huge Cowboy fan."


Irvin says he began talking with the men about the team's disappointing 9-7 season and Dallas not making it to the Super Bowl.

The pair eventually drove off.

isiah thomas said...

Fathead's joint is blocked for me.

isiah thomas said...

oh dave megget

seriously, wft

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

what did Meggett do?

aside from being awesome on Tecmo

isiah thomas said...

out on bail for rape, he raped another bitch

The woman told police she woke up at 1 a.m. Tuesday and found a man she knew as "Mike" sitting on her bed, according to an incident report. The man demanded that she repay $200 she owed him and raped her when she said she didn't have the money, police said.

Afterward, the man told her he was sorry and that she didn't have to repay him.

El Padrino said...

rape stings

blue said...

meggett is going to be a product of a different kind of system

El Padrino said...

parcells loved david

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"out on bail for rape, he raped another bitch"


jesus

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

I'll take the rapists for 600

spaceman spiff said...

old man dont play dat

dirty ho

isiah thomas said...

nsfw

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

This damn slow connection is taking for ever to load that gif

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

that's awesome

Keith S said...

"Since the episode aired last night, did you make the cut for Idol Zeke?"

hfsil went to try out when Idol was here. She got cut 1st round

Keith S said...

I read tyler's post a few weeks ago

Keith S said...

Parents who named their kid Adolf Hitler lose custody

shocking

Keith S said...

"Did we discuss Dick Clark's performance on NYE?"


RIP Dick Clark. You were a magnificent sonofabitch

Keith S said...

natty. what

Keith S said...

Can't wait to hear this guy's story

El Padrino said...

he robbed people, tried to fake his own death, got caught on the way to meh-he-co

Keith S said...

Florida is not close to mexico

El Padrino said...

"Florida is not close to mexico"

he wasnt going to florida buttknuckle

he crashed the plan over florida, got his motorcycle from storage somewhere in alabama i think and was going to drive around texas into mexico

Keith S said...

"he wasnt going to florida buttknuckle"

Oh, he was just found there.

Keith S said...

buttmunch

Steve said...

"he crashed the plan over florida, got his motorcycle from storage somewhere in alabama i think and was going to drive around texas into mexico"

why didn't he just drive into mexico.

they would have known he wasn't dead when they found the plane anyways, why all the bs.

Keith S said...

So as I said, I can't wait to hear this guy's story

El Padrino said...

"why didn't he just drive into mexico.

they would have known he wasn't dead when they found the plane anyways, why all the bs."

not necessarilly, they just found that dude who crahsed 4 years ago

he tried to stage or fake his own death

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

dum dum Re; giving the kids nazi names...


"Do you think they're white supremacists?"

El Padrino said...

Footloose

kick off ya sunday shoes

El Padrino said...

ta dadadaddadadada
ta dadada
dadada

angel is a centerfold

Steve said...

"Adolf Hitler Campbell"

"JoyceLynn Aryan Nation Campbell"

i wonder if the goverment will change their names or let them get old enough and descide on their own?

I HAVE NOWHERE TO GO! said...

"Footloose"

That's my cut. And it never fails that a customer comes in when its on the radio.

blue said...

i once tried to run away to mexico

Steve said...

"i once tried to run away to mexico"

a cousin of mine got his girlfriend pregnant in HS. He tried to skip country, they stopped him at the Canadian border.

It sucked though, cause I wasn't allowed to give him hell about it.

El Padrino said...

what a brilliant idea

Keith S said...

"It sucked though, cause I wasn't allowed to give him hell about it."

You should have been able to let him take one on the nose

Keith S said...

where's zeke and his blocks

Keith S said...

not building blocks

Keith S said...

bolder

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