Tuesday, October 28, 2008

2008/2009 Western Conference Preview.

Alright, it's officially basketball season. I've been saving this week's bad 80's song because it is basketball related. It's from the movie Teen Wolf and it's Win In The End by Mark Safan. Watch the video and count how many times they reused shots. And a couple of times they started filming before the director said action and they still put it in the film. Ah, the eighties.'

For those that hate the NBA and don't want to read my 15 scroller, here are the Comments.

Super NBA West Preview:

1. Lakers
I'm going to start by saying this; I don't like my rankings. This crap is hard to do when the West is as crazy as it is. The top eight teams that made the playoffs in the West last year all won at least 50 games, and the 8th place team was only seven games behind the first place team. SEVEN GAMES. Insanity.

So, I don't like putting the Lakers #1 but Spiff sez they will win the champ-yun-ship this year. They were also the #1 seed last year, and they're the defending Western Conference Champions. And they did that with Andrew Bynum playing about a half season. One question mark is Lamar Odom. Do they trade him? I dunno, it doesn't look like they can get a whole lot back for him. Coming off the bench seems like the best plan, but he's already said he's not feelin' it. I foresee there to be a lot of drama involved.

The upside; have you seen Andrew Bynum? Dood went nuts in the gym over the summer. If his knee holds up for the entire season and the playoffs, Jeebus, look out. And Pow! Gasol! is the perfect guy for the triangle, he can sit in the high post on offense and pick apart defenses, and Bynum can do all of the heavy lifting. Their frontcourt is finally solid.

One thing that really helped them last year was their bench. They were second to the Spurs in bench scoring, which is really an accomplishment because they didn't have a guy like Ginobili, who was basically a sixth starter. So I'm really looking at the Lakers bench to see what they do this year. If they play like they did last year, they're the #1 team in the best conference. If they're just average, they're the #2 team in the best conference.

Oh, and then there's Kobe. The one thing to worry about is that he played over 100 games last season, and then he played in the Olympics. So, he could tire out, but I think Phil and the crew will try and get him as much rest as possible. I could see him sitting out entire quarters when they're playing the Bobcats or the Grizzlies. He just has to avoid those small nagging injuries, like the hyperextended knee that he got playing in the preseason. He's an assassin though, so if it's late in the game and they're leading or it's close, he'll finish it. That's why he's Black Mamba.

2. Rockets
Yeah, I don't like putting them #2 either, but they made that Artest trade, and they finished percentage points behind the Hornets and the Spurs without him, so this is not out of the realm of possibilities. The reason I don't like putting them this high is because EVERYONE is going to rank them either #1 or #2. Hollinger will say they will win 77 games. I just don't like going with the crowd. They're a good team, but it can go very wrong very quickly.

Let's start with Artest. Not the most stable dude on the planet. Mix in Rafer Alston. Also not the most stable dude around. That's 2/5 of your starting rotation. Steve Francis is sitting at the end of the bench. Do you see a trend developing here? If there was a triple homicide in the Rockets locker room and it involved those three guys and they all stabbed each other to death, would you really be THAT surprised. Yeah, I didn't think so.

It is pretty nice to have TWO lock-down perimeter defenders in Ron Artest and Shane Battier though. I mean, a lot of teams would kill for that. There's some talk about Battier guarding Power Forwards, but I just don't see that happening. Artest starts, guards the other team's best wing player, and when he's tired or gets in foul trouble, you bring in Battier. That's a nice 1-2 right there.

And this Luis Scola guy. The Rockets stole him from the Spurs and he turned into a quality starter for most of the season. I really think he had a lot to do with that streak they went on and their push into the playoffs. He's one of those high-energy/glue guys that means more to the team that what his stat sheet reads.

Of course it's all about the chemistry and injuries for this team. Can Yao, T-Mac and Artest co-exist? Will Skip-To-My-Lou stab one of them in the neck? Can McGrady and Yao play more than 5 games together before they get injured? Lots of question marks here. I think they can make it work, and they've got the roster to match up against anyone. So it's really their position to lose.

3. New Orleans
Ok, I think that the Hornets take a step back this year. They might even fall down further than third. Last year they were great, but they really dodged the injury bug and I think it comes around and bites them in the ass this year. I mean, they're team All-Brittle; Tyson Chandler, David West, Peja Freakin' Styjakovic. One or all of those dudes is going down for an extended period of time at some point.

And, onto their major offseason acquisition: the Posey signing; it's ok I guess. I just don't know where they're going to play him, at the two? Bring him off the bench? And what does he do on offense besides shoot threes? I don't really get it. I guess they needed a guy to guard Kobe and Nash, but I don't really think he brings much else to the table.

One other thing that I see happening is that teams will really start to gameplan against Chris Paul. I think he's going to start to see a lot of stiff defensive schemes. And this is like the third year that Byron Scott has been the coach, and much like the George Karl Team Implosion™, Byron Scott has a tendency to wear out his welcome. So that could happen this year. And you've got Bonzi "The Ticking Timebomb" Wells sitting on the bench. Recipe for disaster. I'm just sayin'.

But the third isn't that bad of a spot for them. It really depends on when their injuries happen. If they get them out of the way early, or they happen in the middle of the season and they get everyone back in time for the playoffs and get a favorable matchup, they could move up. And really, you're looking a Lakers team at full strength and a much improved Rockets team at the top, so that's a lot of competition.

4. Jazz
They're here solely because they're in a terrible division. The Nuggets are declining (more on that later) and the Blazers aren't ready to take over the place yet. So, yeah, it's the Jazz in the four spot.

They've basically got the same team from last year, so I really don't know how much they can improve unless they make a trade. And it would have to be a big one. There have been rumors for years about the Jazz moving Kirilenko, but I just don't see it happening. Even for the Matrix. One interesting note is they've got like eight guys that can go into free agency at the end of the season, so this might be their last shot.

They will enjoy an entire year of Kyle Korver spreading the offense though, so maybe that will help with their win total, but now that Deron Williams is out with an ankle sprain, they've got some problems right at the start. Ankle sprains tend to linger, but even if he's not 100% for a couple of months, the midwest division is so terrible that I don't think it will set them back too much. I mean, unless their starting five all die in a bus crash, they're still good to go.

5. Trailblazers
Great young team, I'm probably putting them too far up here, but they've got a ton of potential. If no one gets injured, wow, they could really do some things. You really have to like their core; they've got a bunch of solid young players. Their starting five is looking pretty nice and they've got an excellent bench.

Obviously, the big name here is Greg Oden. He's the guy everyone's trying to dunk on. Don't expect him to have a big impact right away, the Blazers are going to bring him along slowly. He's coming off of microfracture surgery, so they're really going to be watching his minutes, especially in the first half of the season. This doesn't mean that he will have zero impact either. He will make them a better defense team and his presence will also let Joel Przybilla excel in the role he was born to play; bench guy who plays 20-25 minutes and racks up blocks and boards. Przybilla has been masquerading as a starter for a few seasons, and he's a good player, I just think he's better served coming off the bench. I think a tandem of Oden and Przybilla will be effective, but they're both injury prone, so we'll see how long they last. Don't be shocked to see Channing Frye, Ike Diogu, or Shavlik Randolph (bless you!) getting some time in the five hole come January.

The one glaring weakness they have is at the Point Guard position. It's just not good. Steve Blake is the starter and he's got a year left on his deal but he's earning the mid-level exception, which is a lot of money to be paying a dude that is in a time-share. They need an upgrade. Like yesterday. Sergio Rodriguez has been on fire in the preseason, which has left Jerryd Bayless out in the cold. They both have promise, but the team really does need a solid starter. In crunch time, you're going to see Brandon Roy handling the ball, with fireplug Rudy Fernandez at the two.

Speaking of Fernandez, they've got a pretty solid bench and I think bench play, much like it was for the Lakers last year, will be huge for them. You've got Fernandez and Travis Outlaw coming off the bench at the 2 and 3 spot. Both of them will play 30+ minutes and they will both score a lot of points. Rodriguez has really been putting it together lately and he will will definitely run things when the second unit is on the floor. Hopefully McMillian will yell at them enough and the second team will be effective. I think this is a very big strength for a young team; if they can get the same play out of their bench as their starters, it will really speed up the team's development.

The X-Factor; Raef LaFrentz. Not so much for his playing ability, but for his contract. It expires after this year and they could make a move for a point guard if one becomes available during the season. If they don't move him; they've got his $12 million plus Blake's $5 mill to spend after the season. That's a lot of chedda to be throwing around. I don't know who's available at the end of the season, but they could do a sign-and-trade and if I remember correctly, they still have a couple of picks stockpiled. If they can swing a trade and upgrade at the point. Watch out.

For the record, I can see this team fading a couple of spots, because the next two or three teams are full of solid vets.

6. Suns
I think you've gotta say that the Suns window has closed. They had a good run, but unless Shaq starts playing 37 minutes a game and puts up 2000-01 numbers, you've gotta stick a fork in these guys. They have a new coach (Terry Porter), which is going to take some getting used to. Shaq's going to miss some time. Grant Hill is an injury waiting to happen. Steve Nash isn't getting any younger. The only reason I put them ahead of the Spurs is because the one of the Spurs' major contributors is coming off of ankle surgery, and I think the Suns can still run some teams out of the gym. If they can win when they're supposed to and be consistent, I think they've got a shot, but I don't see them going much higher than where I've got them.

You know what you're going to get from Nash, STAT and Shaq. I actually think Shaq makes Stoudemire better, both on the offensive and defensive end, so it's imperative that he plays for most of the season. Porter is going to have to come up with some sort of hybrid offense that plays to everyone's strengths; they need to be able to run, but they also need to be able to play in a half-court set, where Shaq can be effective.

The one thing that jumps out at you it that they're just not as deep as they've been in the past, and I think that's going to hurt them. Rumors abound that the Suns brass is down on The Captain (which I don't understand). And then there's the annual "Boris Diaw is on the trading block" rumor. So, that's kind of a dark cloud that's hanging over this team.

In the offseason they finally stopped trading their picks away for cash. Robin Lopez was a good pick for them and he's going to see some time; Shaq will be out at some point and Diaw will be ineffective for a stretch and Lopez will get some minutes. I really like the Matt Barnes signing. So there's some upside here. It really depends on a lot of factors though; mainly, health, teamwork and coaching. I think they could slide up to the five spot if they're firing on all cylinders. If they're decimated by injuries, it could get ugly.

7. Spurs
Ginobili's ankle situation is really going to kill this team. Supposedly, he's ahead of schedule, but he's going to have to come back and try to get back into the flow, and I think it's going to be awkward for awhile. That and they're really starting to get old. I mean, Bruce Bowen is still playing? Please tell me he's not starting. And if Parker or Duncan miss any games, forget about it. I do think that they have the potential to make a good run and get into the playoffs, but this is really the last gasp for air for this team. I can see Duncan having a monster year because he'll be the first AND second option, but what Tony Parker does is either going to carry them or put them in a hole.

One interesting note; at the end of the 2009/10 season they'll have two guys under contract (Parker and Duncan) and two minor Team Options (both under $2 mill each). Those two contracts they're committed to make up 50% of their current payroll. They're obviously gearing up for something and 2010 is that magical free agent year, but who are they going to sign? And then they have to make a decision about Ginobili; extend him, trade him or let him walk, and what he does this season and next season will obviously dictate what they're going to do. Interesting times if you're a Spurs fan.

8. Dallas
Man, two years ago, it was Suns, Spurs and the Mavs at the top of the board, now they're all at the bottom? That's what happens when you don't keep up. They've just made a lot of bad moves and the players got real tired of Avery Johnson yelling at them.

First off, that Jason Kidd trade was just about the worst thing you could have done to this team mid-season. They run iso-sets like 90% of the time, so explain to me again why you need an over-the-hill hall-of-famer that likes to run the fast break to run that kind of offense? New head coach Coach Rick Carlisle has his work cut out for him. Much like Terry Porter, he's going to have to come up with an offense that allows Kidd to do what he does best (rebound and start the fast break) with what Josh Howard, Jason Terry and Dirk like to do (one-on-one half-court sets).

Dirk is pretty solid and steady, you know what he brings. Josh Howard is just really inconsistant in my opinion. He can be really great one game, and then disappear the next. Combined with all of the trouble he had in the offseason and he's just not the stable, calming influence that this team needs.

The main problem I have is that their roster looks like a fantasy team from a couple of years ago. Way to go there, Cuban. The glaring weakness is at Center. Dampier is overpaid, and DeSagana Diop is ok as a defensive replacement, the only problem is, he starts a fair amount because you never know what's going to happen with Dampier. Center is a black hole for them on offense and I don't think they have the same firepower they've had in past seasons to counteract that.

I think Carlisle struggles and the team struggles too. The problem is, they'll still get that last playoff spot and get crushed in the first round. They had their shot, and I think they're the West Coast version of Detroit; they think they're a lot better than they really are and they should have thought about moving some guys before they got to this point. The only exception is that the Pistons won a championship. It's going to be a rough couple of years for the Mavs from here on out.

9. Nuggets
Let's face it, the Nuggs are just a mess. There will be a change at the head coach position, probably in December when Melo stops running back on D. I can really see him not going past half court ever and just hanging around the rim waiting for a hail mary inbound pass after the other team has scored. They traded their best defender for the chance to swap second round picks, so the defense does not get any better, and it was pretty much the worst D in the league to begin with. So that's not a good thing.

Nene and K-Mart combined to play exactly 50% of the last three seasons (243 games played out of a possible 486). That's your starting front-court and you've got Kleiza, an ancient Juwan Howard and Steven Hunter coming off the bench. Oh, and the Bird Man, how could I forget about the Bird Man? Dude, there is no way this team is winning 41 games.

And you have to think that they're going to move A.I. before the trade deadline. He's in the last year of his deal, and he can still produce, so he does have a lot of value. The problem is, where are they going to trade him and what are they going to get back? They basically need everything. PG? Check. SG? Check. Front court? Check. Bench guys? Check. I just don't see this ending well.

10. Clippers
Ah, the Clippers. It's pretty hard to place these guys because on paper, they're a pretty good squad, but in reality, they're still the Clippers. As I said a couple of weeks ago, it's not good when your #1 free agent acquisition (Davis) and your #1 offseason trade acquisition (Camby) are both injured and the season hasn't even started yet.

They've made a couple of good moves after the Brand debacle; Ricky Davis is going to get a lot of minutes and he will put up numbers. He has an opt-out clause, so he's basically playing for a contract. I really like Eric Gordon, it's a good pick for them and I think when he figures it out, he will be the missing link.

When Camby is healthy I think he will work well with the Caveman. In fact, I think that's their biggest strength, but the two of them need to remain healthy. Al Thornton was a monster at the end of the season and if he can make a big jump, I think the Clippers have a shot at moving up .They might even be fighting for a playoff position.

It all comes down to Baron Davis though. He's going to be running the team. He has the ability to be one of the top five players in the league and he can singlehandedly change a game. Health is always a concern, so as he goes, so do the Clippers. But he's got Jenny Craig behind him, so he's got that going for him.

I really think they have a lot of good pieces and they can find themselves in a fight if things go well, it's just that all of the stars are going to have to align for them and, well, they ARE the Clippers.

11. Warriors
The Warriors are obviously going to take a step back. I think they take a bigger step back that most people do. They decided to let Baron Davis go, and then right after they signed Monta Ellis to a huge contract, he went out for a joyride on his moped and destroyed his ankle. You're talking about losing a 20 ppg guy that runs your offense. And he's just gone. For months. And you let the other guy that was scoring 20 ppg that was running your offense walk. You really can't just go check the waiver wire and pick one a guy to replace that kind of production.

They did sign Corey Maggette in the offseason and he can fill one of those holes, but he can't fill both of those holes. AND, at some point, he and Stephan Jackson are going to get into a knife fight over minutes and/or whoever took the last Grape Gatorade. It's going to end badly. They basically have no post presence, Al Harrington has gotten used to Nelly's freewheeling style and loves to shoot three's now; they run absolutely NO plays for Andris Biendrins (and really they shouldn't be running any plays for him anyway), and, I'm sorry, but Ronny Turiaf isn't going wake up one morning and turn into Tim Duncan. They're like the Suns from a few years ago, but their Steve Nash blew up his ankle, and they don't have a STAT or a Matrix. So, yeah, not so good, Al. I'm looking at their roster right now and I'm just shaking my head. It's mind bottling.

12. Kings
The Kings are another tough one to rank because they're a scrappy team. I wanted to put them above the Warriors for some reason, but they traded their best player and when their lineup is introduced, people are going to be looking at each other, saying, "Who the hell are these guys, the Reno Bighorns?" (That's the Kings dleague team if you didn't know.)

Seriously, their starting five is: Beno Udrih, Kevin Martin, John Salmons, Mikki Moore and Brad Miller. As an old boss of mine who was from the Sacto area used to say, "At least they still have Bobby Jackson".

Much like last year, their strength is their backcourt. Udrih is surprisingly serviceable, and Martin does the heavy lifting. I think John Salmons will have a better year now that he's the clear starter (he was off to an insane start last year when Artest was out) and Francisco Garcia is going to see a lot of time coming off the bench to provide help at both the 2 and 3 spot. That's a nice, but young rotation.

Again, their big weakness is the front-court, specifically in the paint. Brad Miller is old and Mikki Moore should not be starting. Kenny Thomas is undersized, past his prime and coming off the bench. If one of those guys misses time, it's going to go really wrong, really quick because they've got no one else. They need to trade for someone to help out but the problem is, they don't have anyone to trade, unless they're going to trade Martin, and that's not happening. So they're going to have to wait until the draft to see what they can get. One thing that the next two teams have that the Kings don't is a way to turn it around rather quickly. I just see other teams getting better and the Kings staying the same and/or getting worse.

14. Timberwolves
The Timberwolves have some light at the end of the tunnel, but they're still a couple of years away from doing anything. Their roster is also very strange. They are still paying Juwan Howard $7.375 mill (how that guy continues to fall back-assward into buy-out after buy-out, I'll never know) and they had to take back Brain Cardinal's terrible contract ($13 mill over the next two years) as a part of that K Luv/OJ Mayo trade.

They do have some good players though. They got Mike Miller in that deal I just mentioned and I think he'll be the beneficiary of a lot of open looks. If he's not, hopefully he'll be able to pass it to the open man. Al Jefferson is a beast and he's going to have to get used to getting double-teamed. Randy Foye and Rashad McCants combine for a NICE young backcourt. The frustrating thing about Foye is that since his rookie year, people have been saying that "this is the year". Last year really wasn't his fault because he was hurt, but I do remember an NBA GM saying something like, "after three years, you pretty much know what kind of player you've got". If he doesn't step up this year, it's just not going to happen. I think it does and he's going to be a force.

Their weakness is their youth and their bench. Sebastian Telfair is just brutal. He just had another run-in with the law and is going to get a three-game suspension to start the season, which is one game for every year that he's now on probation for. Do you think he's gonna make it three years without doing something stupid? Yeah, me neither. Kevin Love; is he ready? And is he big enough? I just don't know. The rest of their bench isn't even worth mentioning, except of course Ryan Gomes, who I like, but it seems like he's locked in a battle for minutes for some strange reason.

So I think Miinny is heading towards the lottery again, which isn't necessarily a bad thing. If they can get another piece through the draft this year, keep them all together for a couple of years, then add a vet or two, then you're really going to have to watch out for them. They're definitely a team on the rise. I think the both the Grizz and the Wolves are in the same situation that the Blazers were in two years ago; trade for some picks, make smart picks and get good players on your squad, then have a couple of breaks go your way and you could wind up with a really nice team. We're just going to have to wait and see what happens.

14. Grizzlies
You know, the Grizz just might shock some people. Or they might just be as bad as everyone thinks. I really think this comes down to how well Mike Conley plays and if he makes a big jump this year. They're not getting into the playoffs; they're WAY too young for that, but they've got a pretty good starting five and if they can keep them playing together for a couple of years, I think they're a couple of moves away from being strong contenders. There's no way they're going to keep Antoine Walker after this season (Team Option, if they exercise it next year, they've have keep him for two years at $10 mill per. There' s NO WAY that's happening), and depending on how they're doing, he could be trade bait for the right price.

Rudy Gay is a stud, and he's only going to get better this year. The jury's still out on O.J. Mayo; I can see him hitting a wall around February, so we're really going to have to wait until next year to see what he can do. I think they will hustle a lot and overachieve a little, but that will probably only get them a couple of games at the most. They're young, they need to develop and they're still a couple of pieces away.

One thing they do need to address is their front-court. Marc Gasol is their starting Center with Darko coming off the bench. Hakim Warrick is their starting PF with 'Toine providing relief. That's pretty thin. I think all of the starters are going to log some pretty heavy minutes and if they get tired or hit a wall at some point during the season, it could start to get brutal.

Their GM likes to wheel and deal, and they've got enough cap space, picks and prospects that nothing is out of bounds. I guess they've still got that trade on the table with the Knicks for Zack Randolph, but I don't think that's a very good idea. Ride this out, get better through the draft and see where you're at in a year or two. That should be the plan.

I think this is a team to watch, but you're probably not going to want to watch them THIS year.

15. Sonics OKC Thunder
Moving to a new city, changing your name, and getting some new uniforms does not help you win games. They suck, they will continue to suck, and you will be able to find Chunder tickets on Stub Hub for half the face value by the All-Star break. They really don't have a whole lot to look forward to. Except for a chance at a #1 pick. That is all.

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Beth said...

I'm sure if I cared about basketball and had actually read your preview, I'd be saying "well done tyler!" right about now. :-)

tem said...

it looks like i got bumped.

tem said...

man miss one week for cpe....

tem said...

of course that is a lot of writing. i would not have written that much.

Beth said...

Tem, that's about 5 weeks worth of postings for you.

tem said...

by the by it was painfully obvious watching the World Series that the umps and stuff were waiting for Tampa to tie it up and then they were going to call the game.

tem said...

it is a lot of post that is for sure.

so far it is good though.

tem said...

i'm to the trailblazers.

i got an email from a coworker with a really dumb question so i answered it really sarcastically.

they got mad. too bad.

tem said...

re: trailblazers

"If no one gets injured"


you forgot the "AHiIK"

tem said...

"They did sign Corey Maggette in the offseason and he can fill one of those holes, but he can't fill both of those holes."

TWSS

Jugdish said...

I like to picture Jesus in a tuxedo T-Shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I'm here to party.

tem said...

finished reading.

good preview. i was impressed.

tem said...

my coworkers response to my sarcastic email:

"That's correct.
I obviously asked a question that you're not educated enough about, to answer intelligently.

Fag!"


construction guys are awesome.

Jugdish said...

Two Democrats on an elevator video

tem said...

that's an escalator.

Jugdish said...

yeah...that's what I meant.

tem said...

sure you did.

Jugdish said...

I'm still taking on caffine this morning.

Beth said...

Nice slogan for your blog there jug.

Jugdish said...

they both start with an e

Jugdish said...

thanks...it seems to fit

tem said...

"they both start with an e"

true.

blue said...

that's a lot of writing.

i agree with everything tyler said about the nuggets with the exception that camby is a good defensive player (ns)

blue said...

camby couldn't guard the pick n roll and when you play in a division that has Deron Williams who runs the pick n roll 142 times a game, that's a problem.

blue said...

but, hey they can't get much worse than being last in the league in defense

blue said...

God doesn't want the phillies to win, he rained out their chance

blue said...

we probably need a link to the comments at the top of the post


on a side note, when i first started reading i thought tem had stolen tyler's idear of rad 80's songs.

tem said...

i am a thief like that.

blue said...

baseball needs to allow the managers to have replay challenges of calls...not strikes and balls, but things that are not "judgement" calls like out/safe

blue said...

i guess obamer was here on sunday...not in my office, but Denver

blue said...

if he'd have been in my office on sunday, he'd have been arrested

blue said...

charles barkley wants to be governor again...i like this idear

tem said...

actual part of one of our management agreements:

"As used herein, whenever expressed, the singular number shall be construed to mean the plural number, the plural number shall be construed to mean the singular number. "

tem said...

"baseball needs to allow the managers to have replay challenges of calls"

if the umps are going to keep fucking up basic calls like they are in this world series then yes the managers need this ability.

the umping is atrocious.

tem said...

"As used herein, whenever appropriate, the masculine gender shall be construed to mean the feminine or neuter gender, or both of them; the feminine gender shall be construed to mean the masculine or neuter gender, or both of them, and the neuter gender shall be construed to mean the masculine or feminine gender, or both of them. "

blue said...

honestly it wouldn't delay the game that long and it's not like there's 13 questionable calls a game...there's usually one, maybe 2.

But it might end the hysterical tirades by managers

Jugdish said...

::blank stare::

blue said...

i overheard a suggestion that they move the remainder of game 5 of the WS to milwaukee so they can finish the game.

Jugdish said...

But it might end the hysterical tirades by managers



That's not a positive thing.

blue said...

managers could still argue over the strikezone though, or runner interference or something


and the strikezone last night was ridiculous.

tem said...

and the strikezone during the whole world series has been ridiculous.


*fixed

tem said...

the umps aren't "for tampa" or "for philly", they are just terrible.

tem said...

reggie wayned did what i needed him to do.

thanks be to reggie.

blue said...

i think the umps are "for boston"

blue said...

man, the colts are awful

El Padrino said...

"I like to picture Jesus in a tuxedo T-Shirt because it says I want to be formal, but I'm here to party."

talladega nights

El Padrino said...

Tyler this is excellent stuff.

Jugdish said...

talladega nights



Good call!

Jugdish said...

Zeke and fmz

blue said...

his hair is different than i imagined

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

Quick shitty league update:

The major douchebag has made 64(!) moves. And he's the one trying to tell me he had a terrific draft.

blue said...

good update meiz

tem said...

64 already in FNFL?

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

"64 already in FNFL?"


Yes. And after I told him that he should re-think his drafting strategy, he told me that I would lose all my money in the league next year. I went on a Zeke-ian tirade, assaulting him and his family. It was teh awesomeness.

blue said...

sounds pretty great

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

dude doesn't get that I'm just trying to rattle him, and its working. I bet he has nightmares about me.

I'm done.




(insert blue's 3rd straight smart remark)

blue said...

"dude doesn't get that I'm just trying to rattle him, and its working. I bet he has nightmares about me."

ditto

blue said...

meiz is shaken

blue said...

fed might cut rates below 1%...doesn't mean shit if banks won't loan money, but that's low

japan had a 0% fed funds rate for like 4 years though

El Padrino said...

this job is hell

blue said...

"this job is hell"

yeah it's not all filet and fingerling potatoes now is it.

Beth said...

So go work for the frenchies.

blue said...

did you ever here back from the frenchies

Beth said...

I think the frenchies weren't willing to pay a signing bonus.

blue said...

it's amazing how much people decide their jobs suck after they come so close to getting another one.

i was in that boat.

Jugdish said...

If ep takes that guy he has to walk around the office with people who sound like that French guy from Talladega Nights...he might even start talking with that accent.

blue said...

and drink perrier water

Jugdish said...

and wear a beret

blue said...

and eat lots of stinky cheese

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

and eat croissants

Jugdish said...

and hook up with women who don't bath or shave

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

and carry a purse

Jugdish said...

and kiss men on the cheek instead of shaking hands

tem said...

and run away from all germans

Jugdish said...

sounds like a good career move...

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

and dress like this

blue said...

and watch movies with subtitles

blue said...

and write poetry

El Padrino said...

"I think the frenchies weren't willing to pay a signing bonus."

correct, but this is not over, still in talks, in fact had a discussion yesterday about it

El Padrino said...

"it's amazing how much people decide their jobs suck after they come so close to getting another one."

that's not why my job sucks, it sucks becuase we are 4 people supporting a 150 billion dollar business and it's too much and they wont let us hire anyone because of the crisis

El Padrino said...

it's very possible that morgan stanley gets rescued or merges within the next few days

El Padrino said...

it also sucks becuase i'm great and am underpaid

El Padrino said...

it also sucks becuase i sit next to a delusional pollack who eats raw garlic and wears funny looking clothes

tem said...

morgan stanley needs to merge with Chase


then it can be J.P. Morgan Stanley.

tem said...

don't forget about the fat head guy too.

El Padrino said...

"yeah it's not all filet and fingerling potatoes now is it."

you know i missed the october dinner thing and they had soft shell crab as an option

always wanted to try those, i was pissed off

anyone try those

blue said...

i've had softshell crab in sushi

Jugdish said...

i've had softshe(wa)ll crab in sushi



fixed

we need change! said...

Zeke and fmz

nazi'd, I hope this is a 600 lbs man with his arm around a cardboard cutout of a woman.

we need change! said...

and eat croissants

french food is the best (NS)

El Padrino said...

"Your assumption of how long margin is here until or when we leave is out of your realm of suggestions"

english majors, does this make sense?

Jugdish said...

I'll post it on the jug life blog for ya...

we need change! said...

realm is underused

Jugdish said...

its on there zeke...

no bear in mind on the original page thye title of the pic was "FMZ and me"

not the same without the title.

Jugdish said...

now

Dikembe Meiztombo said...

"I'll post it on the jug life blog for ya..."


Obamer's blocked on dot blogspot addresses

Jugdish said...

oops...forgot.

lovad it is.

we need change! said...

mental note:

ctrl+f on ctrl+f tonight

Keith S said...

"i got an email from a coworker with a really dumb question so i answered it really sarcastically."


Did you make sure to insert the (S)?

Keith S said...

Because otherwise you just look like an as.hole

Keith S said...

Tyler's NBA preview >>>>>>>>>> everyone

Keith S said...

All the people that think that the Phillies would have won last night if Tampa didn't tie it up are fucking re-tard-ed. IDGAF how idiotic Selig is, there's no way the World Series would end in anything less than < 9 innings

Jugdish said...

Selig said he would have made it a rain delay and it could have lasted a day or more if need be. I agree...no way the WS ends on a called game...even if Rev is walking around in the rain outside of the stadium.

Keith S said...

The nice thing for rev is that when he got home he was able to take his shirt off and wring it out and fill the tub for cmrev to take a bath

Keith S said...

Here is the guy they have arrested in the Jennifer Hudson family case. He has nice hair

Jugdish said...

rev is going to india in a few weeks. I wonder if he will wear a phillies WS champions hat with his big brown smock.

we need change! said...

T this is outstanding work, I'm still looking it over but love the Blazers at #5, I think they'll make some noise this season.

Keith S said...

"rev is going to india in a few weeks. I wonder if he will wear a phillies WS champions hat with his big brown smock."

Why? Is India where they send the "champion" hats of the teams that don't win?

spaceman spiff said...

"Why? Is India where they send the "champion" hats of the teams that don't win?"

beat me to it, would be hilarious if the phillies lost and rev found some championship apparel out there and secretly bought it

El Padrino said...

good point on houston haveing two lock down defenders now

this is yeee-uuuge in the west
artest could frustrate the Dai Lama (sp) with his defense

El Padrino said...

"beat me to it, would be hilarious if the phillies lost and rev found some championship apparel out there and secretly bought it"

god let this happen

Keith S said...

The Dai Lama is no joke

Jugdish said...

that would be funny.

I wonder if the native Indians have seen someone as large as good ol rev.

Jugdish said...

imagine this ------------------->



getting off the plane

Keith S said...

The comments on the FNBA league page are hilarity.

Keith S said...

EP
I'll trade you Nate Robinson for Mo Williams

El Padrino said...

i dont think so keefer

El Padrino said...

"All the people that think that the Phillies would have won last night if Tampa didn't tie it up are fucking re-tard-ed. IDGAF how idiotic Selig is, there's no way the World Series would end in anything less than < 9 innings"

i mean cmon now, who wants to win the WS on a called game

idiots

El Padrino said...

i ♥ rev jokes

Jugdish said...

good job mize

Jugdish said...

actually philly fans might just be that desperate

Keith S said...

mize doesn't fork for UPS

Jugdish said...

UM

blue said...

protest...i protest that trade

Keith S said...

jug reads old shit

Jugdish said...

RIP SD

Keith S said...

SD Jones was great

Jugdish said...

its new to me



slow news day today

Jugdish said...

that UM article was old...

we need change! said...

UM

just change the date, Toledo for App St. and Rich Rod for Llllloyd Carr and its still relevant.

Tough year for UM, they'll take their lumps again next season also, hopefully they'll get to 6-6ish then be ready to go by 2010, hopefully. They've got fork to do fo sho.

Jugdish said...

UM needs change!

El Padrino said...

mcguff, heisman watch 2010

Jugdish said...

the crime dog?

blue said...

"Tough year for UM, they'll take their lumps again next season also, hopefully they'll get to 6-6ish then be ready to go by 2010, hopefully. They've got fork to do fo sho."

they need a QB then they'll be fine

blue said...

although i'm not sure what "fork to do" means

tem said...

"Because otherwise you just look like an as.hole"

pretty much. put his response back was worst.

El Padrino said...

Willie Colon (OG) had this to say about the Giants after the game:
“They weren’t better then us: I’ll say it to their face.”


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Jugdish said...

fairly even game

blue said...

in de face giants

we need change! said...

they need a QB then they'll be fine

if they had a decent qb they'd be close to .500 now if not above, but their qb is beyond bad.

we need change! said...

I would have liked to see how the G-Men/Pitt game played out if they didn't get that safety from the LB playing long snapper.

we need change! said...

although i'm not sure what "fork to do" means

fork = work (HDH from lovad with deke)

El Padrino said...

simmons shot down, again

El Padrino said...

"I would have liked to see how the G-Men/Pitt game played out if they didn't get that safety from the LB playing long snapper."

giants would have scored on that drive and won the game 19-14.

dont even trip

we need change! said...

I don't doubt they would have won but that was a huge momentum turn and out of the ordinary with a LB playing LS.

tem said...

UM will be a lot better next year.

Even if they start a true freshman at QB.

A lot of the Rich Rod offense is done on the line and it takes a awhile for linemen to learn what the hell they are supposed to be doing.

tem said...

and that UM defense is stout.

if the UM offense figures out a way to stay on the field, and keep the UM defense off of it, then UM will get better fast.

tem said...

that snap was horrid.

Yao Ming standing on Greg Oden's shoulders might not have been tall enough to catch it.

we need change! said...

and that UM defense is stout.

you'd think this is true, but the last few games they have been awful, I mean bad. They have experienced personell but have been downright garbage the last 3 games.

I still think Rich Rod will get it done though.

El Padrino said...

nor'easter

we need change! said...

nor'easter

92, 93, 92, 91, 90, 85

highs here the next few days.

West side!

Jugdish said...

game 5.5 is pushed off until at least tomorrow

El Padrino said...

it's bad oussside

El Padrino said...

weather is good in the west, no doubt

spaceman spiff said...

its 75 degrees, not a cloud in the sky

Jugdish said...

maybe rev can get a half priced ticket for game 5.5

blue said...

move game 5.5 to milwaukee

blue said...

it's 75 today here even...west siiiiiiide

Jugdish said...

63 and sunny here

Keith S said...

On this day in 1962...

The New York Giants defeated the Washington Redskins, 49-34, as New York quarterback Y.A. Tittle threw for 507 yards and seven touchdowns.

I said Tittle

Keith S said...

"it's 75 today here even...west siiiiiiide"

You're 4 states away from the coast.

El Padrino said...

move game 5.5 to milwaukee

nice work here blue

tem said...

"but the last few games they have been awful, "


UM defense starts out good then gets tired because the UM offense is never on the field.

UM defense gets wore down.

See PSU game and MSU games. They started well finished shitasticaly.

Jugdish said...

You're 4 states away from the coast.



he said side...not coast

Keith S said...

I guess

blue said...

"You're 4 states away from the coast."

pretty sure there's not oceanfront property in AZ

Jugdish said...

no, he did

El Padrino said...

sick and tired of these politics, wish the 4th was tomorrow

Jugdish said...

George Strait says there is

El Padrino said...

colorado vs arizona

prepare for battle, loser gets annexed to western canada

Fight!

Jugdish said...

sick and tired of these politics, wish the 4th was tomorrow


A Freaking men!

Keith S said...

"pretty sure there's not oceanfront property in AZ"

I didn't say there was.

El Padrino said...

i hope no one is losing sight of the fact that even if nyc has bad weather it's still >>>>>>>>>> the other 49 states

Keith S said...

"colorado vs arizona"

Arizona >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Colorado

El Padrino said...

TIC

Keith S said...

"i hope no one is losing sight of the fact that even if nyc has bad weather it's still >>>>>>>>>> the other 49 states"

Well of course not. NYC in I Am Legend is till >>>>>>>>>> the other 49 states. Der

Keith S said...

*still

El Padrino said...

Volkswagen, WFT

Jugdish said...

even if nyc has bad weather it's still >>>>>>>>>> the other 49 states



NYC is not a state...unless you're talking about your state of mind that tells you its better.

Keith S said...

"George Strait says there is"

This is true

El Padrino said...

nice work keef

blue said...

"Arizona >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Colorado"


except the except opposite

blue said...

arizona is where old people go to die, much like florida.

Keith S said...

Right. Because it's so awesome.

blue said...

yes, graveyards are awesome

Jugdish said...

state slapper...suite

blue said...

state slapper from 2 transplants

spaceman spiff said...

lee corso doesnt understand how the BCS has a 1 loss Oklahoma over a 1 loss USC.

fucking idiot

El Padrino said...

::eating popcorn::

Keith S said...

They don't bury the people here

JFreak said...

Just live at four corners, you can have both.

JFreak said...

Plus two more.

What could be better?

El Padrino said...

lee corso is on borrowed time

Keith S said...

"Plus two more."

Utar and New Mexico? No thanks

Jugdish said...

What could be better?




NYC

JFreak said...

Yeah, forget utah and nm.

they suck.

Keith S said...

NYC bums would have mansions in any other state

we need change! said...

Volkswagen, WFT

I'm thoroughly enjoying Brooke Shields re-birth, she looks pretty dagum hot in those commercials, didn't remember that about her.

blue said...

new mexico is not great, it's like AZ but with more indians

we need change! said...

state slapper from 2 transplants

Bleu is a CO native?

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